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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.wpcontempo.com/100-epn-site-challenge-mid-october-update/#comment-1553</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anna - There&#039;s nothing really wrong with statcounter, per say, it&#039;s just a matter of what you want to get out of your stats. I&#039;ve used stat counter and in my opinion, the level of reporting is not even remotely close to analytics. That&#039;s just my own personal taste, and I know there are a lot of marketers doing well out there using stat counter - I just don&#039;t care for it.

Analytics defintiely should not be slowing your site down unless your traffic numbers are off the charts, and even then I doubt it would slow you down at all. It&#039;s probably more of a hosting issue than an analytics issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@anna &#8211; There&#8217;s nothing really wrong with statcounter, per say, it&#8217;s just a matter of what you want to get out of your stats. I&#8217;ve used stat counter and in my opinion, the level of reporting is not even remotely close to analytics. That&#8217;s just my own personal taste, and I know there are a lot of marketers doing well out there using stat counter &#8211; I just don&#8217;t care for it.</p>
<p>Analytics defintiely should not be slowing your site down unless your traffic numbers are off the charts, and even then I doubt it would slow you down at all. It&#8217;s probably more of a hosting issue than an analytics issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.wpcontempo.com/100-epn-site-challenge-mid-october-update/#comment-1552</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@brad: Believe me, I took a lot of care to avoid leaving footprints, and since these sites are all white hat anyway, I don&#039;t believe I have much to hide, other than the fact that I own another 100 sites in various niches, which I don&#039;t think is a crime, last time I checked. 

That&#039;s the main reason I was using Google Analytics to begin with - and I have to say that I still haven&#039;t really found a perfect replacement. I did try using Piwik, and it does work well, however the main problem I&#039;m having is I can&#039;t view combined data for all my sites at once. For example, with GA, when I had my 50 sites set up in an analytics account, I could see the overall traffic numbers, bounce rate, time on page, etc, for all 50 sites combines, as opposed to each individual site. I personally have found that information to be very helpful, and these sites are not yet at a stage where it helps that much to view individual statistics for each site. At some point it will be helpful - once they are out of the sandbox and starting to rank for the targeted terms.

I did completely remove analytics from all my sites as was previously recommended above, however I still miss it and I highly doubt I will find anything that is even remotely as powerful - especially for free.

As far as adsense goes, switching to yahoo ads will not even come close to approaching the same performance any site would get with AdSense. That is why there aren&#039;t a lot of internet marketers running Yahoo or any other PPC ads. The only reason they would is because their adsense account was banned or they couldn&#039;t get one. If you have a lot of sites running adsense, its fine, just don&#039;t link them together. Other than that, I wouldn&#039;t worry at all untily you reach the $100/day point. Then set up an LLC and get a second AdSense account.  

The main point is, as long as you&#039;re keeping your web property white-hat, the risk is going to be a lot smaller, and there isn&#039;t much reason to resort to anything crazy to avoid getting penalized. If you&#039;re still concerned about it, focus on quality authority sites instead of quantity niche sites, as there is even less risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@brad: Believe me, I took a lot of care to avoid leaving footprints, and since these sites are all white hat anyway, I don&#8217;t believe I have much to hide, other than the fact that I own another 100 sites in various niches, which I don&#8217;t think is a crime, last time I checked. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the main reason I was using Google Analytics to begin with &#8211; and I have to say that I still haven&#8217;t really found a perfect replacement. I did try using Piwik, and it does work well, however the main problem I&#8217;m having is I can&#8217;t view combined data for all my sites at once. For example, with GA, when I had my 50 sites set up in an analytics account, I could see the overall traffic numbers, bounce rate, time on page, etc, for all 50 sites combines, as opposed to each individual site. I personally have found that information to be very helpful, and these sites are not yet at a stage where it helps that much to view individual statistics for each site. At some point it will be helpful &#8211; once they are out of the sandbox and starting to rank for the targeted terms.</p>
<p>I did completely remove analytics from all my sites as was previously recommended above, however I still miss it and I highly doubt I will find anything that is even remotely as powerful &#8211; especially for free.</p>
<p>As far as adsense goes, switching to yahoo ads will not even come close to approaching the same performance any site would get with AdSense. That is why there aren&#8217;t a lot of internet marketers running Yahoo or any other PPC ads. The only reason they would is because their adsense account was banned or they couldn&#8217;t get one. If you have a lot of sites running adsense, its fine, just don&#8217;t link them together. Other than that, I wouldn&#8217;t worry at all untily you reach the $100/day point. Then set up an LLC and get a second AdSense account.  </p>
<p>The main point is, as long as you&#8217;re keeping your web property white-hat, the risk is going to be a lot smaller, and there isn&#8217;t much reason to resort to anything crazy to avoid getting penalized. If you&#8217;re still concerned about it, focus on quality authority sites instead of quantity niche sites, as there is even less risk.</p>
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		<title>By: annabelt</title>
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		<dc:creator>annabelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had Statcounter for all my sites for a couple of years and been happy with it.  I tried putting Google Analytics on some of them recently as I&#039;d heard you could track sales and adsense profits better with it, but I&#039;m taking it off again now because it slowed the sites down so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had Statcounter for all my sites for a couple of years and been happy with it.  I tried putting Google Analytics on some of them recently as I&#8217;d heard you could track sales and adsense profits better with it, but I&#8217;m taking it off again now because it slowed the sites down so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Bradley Chapple</title>
		<link>http://www.wpcontempo.com/100-epn-site-challenge-mid-october-update/#comment-1548</link>
		<dc:creator>Bradley Chapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam,

There are some other measures the savvy IM&#039;ers take to avoid creating a footprint for G to spot.  Look into it.  You would be surprised.

Along the same lines, keep in mind what other people here have said about their Analytics services.  Yes, it looks great and it&#039;s nice to have, but it also leaves you completely open to inspection.  Use Piwik or something else.

Some of the more paranoid (I&#039;m almost there) have switched from Adsense over to the Yahoo! alternative because supposedly having Adsense on a lot of sites under the same account causes your sites to be flagged for inspection.  Yes, it&#039;s just a conspiracy theory, but it&#039;s something to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>There are some other measures the savvy IM&#8217;ers take to avoid creating a footprint for G to spot.  Look into it.  You would be surprised.</p>
<p>Along the same lines, keep in mind what other people here have said about their Analytics services.  Yes, it looks great and it&#8217;s nice to have, but it also leaves you completely open to inspection.  Use Piwik or something else.</p>
<p>Some of the more paranoid (I&#8217;m almost there) have switched from Adsense over to the Yahoo! alternative because supposedly having Adsense on a lot of sites under the same account causes your sites to be flagged for inspection.  Yes, it&#8217;s just a conspiracy theory, but it&#8217;s something to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.wpcontempo.com/100-epn-site-challenge-mid-october-update/#comment-1535</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great that they are making that update to the WP core. Honestly, Brad&#039;s comment yesterday was the first I&#039;d ever heard about anything involving the plugins folder, however I do think I will be checking into it a little bit more, as I see how there could be some potential vulnerability there. Joomla has this same practice of placing index files in every folder, so there is obviously a good reason for doing so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great that they are making that update to the WP core. Honestly, Brad&#8217;s comment yesterday was the first I&#8217;d ever heard about anything involving the plugins folder, however I do think I will be checking into it a little bit more, as I see how there could be some potential vulnerability there. Joomla has this same practice of placing index files in every folder, so there is obviously a good reason for doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.wpcontempo.com/100-epn-site-challenge-mid-october-update/#comment-1534</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, my old strategy was to auto-gen content, and I believe it was a large contributing factor to getting a lot of my well-performing sites deindexed in Google. 

You definitely have a point - there&#039;s nothing necessarily wrong with auto generated content, and it can be valuable to visitors to your site, however Google does not love duplicate content, so you don&#039;t get any real benefit there as far as I&#039;m concerned, and you can get a niche site with 5-10 posts ranked #1 in Google just fine without autogenerating thousands of pages of duplicate content. Not that it doesn&#039;t help to have fresh content daily, but a large number of different niches contain top ranking sites that don&#039;t have many actual pages of content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, my old strategy was to auto-gen content, and I believe it was a large contributing factor to getting a lot of my well-performing sites deindexed in Google. </p>
<p>You definitely have a point &#8211; there&#8217;s nothing necessarily wrong with auto generated content, and it can be valuable to visitors to your site, however Google does not love duplicate content, so you don&#8217;t get any real benefit there as far as I&#8217;m concerned, and you can get a niche site with 5-10 posts ranked #1 in Google just fine without autogenerating thousands of pages of duplicate content. Not that it doesn&#8217;t help to have fresh content daily, but a large number of different niches contain top ranking sites that don&#8217;t have many actual pages of content.</p>
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		<title>By: Adopt a puppy</title>
		<link>http://www.wpcontempo.com/100-epn-site-challenge-mid-october-update/#comment-1533</link>
		<dc:creator>Adopt a puppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great stuff here. Keep it up. The new version of WP 2.8 and up will auto hide plugins by including an index file.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff here. Keep it up. The new version of WP 2.8 and up will auto hide plugins by including an index file.</p>
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		<title>By: Bradley Chapple</title>
		<link>http://www.wpcontempo.com/100-epn-site-challenge-mid-october-update/#comment-1514</link>
		<dc:creator>Bradley Chapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My bad.  I thought that you were setting up your EPN sites to add content every day via an autoblog plugin.  After reading over your post again, I see now that I was mistaken.

I have some experience in autoblogging, but not with the EPN.  I&#039;ve just recently applied to the EPN and hope to get accepted soon.  At that point, I may begin monetizing my blogs and creating more and more of them.

I personally believe, however, that working on long term strategies is the best approach.  Which usually means spending a lot of time to make your blog look nice, and NOT monetizing it until G decides it likes your site.  This always takes more time, and makes for a slow start.  After G decides it likes your site, then monetize away... but, don&#039;t forget to keep your site content-rich.  G loves content.  That&#039;s where autoblogging can help.

Many people think that autoblogging is &quot;black hat,&quot; but I don&#039;t completely agree.  There are many news sites out there who just pull the news from somewhere else.  They don&#039;t make the news.  They don&#039;t even write the news.  They simply reprint the news.  That&#039;s how I look at autoblogging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bad.  I thought that you were setting up your EPN sites to add content every day via an autoblog plugin.  After reading over your post again, I see now that I was mistaken.</p>
<p>I have some experience in autoblogging, but not with the EPN.  I&#8217;ve just recently applied to the EPN and hope to get accepted soon.  At that point, I may begin monetizing my blogs and creating more and more of them.</p>
<p>I personally believe, however, that working on long term strategies is the best approach.  Which usually means spending a lot of time to make your blog look nice, and NOT monetizing it until G decides it likes your site.  This always takes more time, and makes for a slow start.  After G decides it likes your site, then monetize away&#8230; but, don&#8217;t forget to keep your site content-rich.  G loves content.  That&#8217;s where autoblogging can help.</p>
<p>Many people think that autoblogging is &#8220;black hat,&#8221; but I don&#8217;t completely agree.  There are many news sites out there who just pull the news from somewhere else.  They don&#8217;t make the news.  They don&#8217;t even write the news.  They simply reprint the news.  That&#8217;s how I look at autoblogging.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.wpcontempo.com/100-epn-site-challenge-mid-october-update/#comment-1512</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, and in regards to the plugins folder - I have never heard anything to indicate that it&#039;s important to hide your plugins folder. I really can&#039;t imagine a scenario where it would be a factor in any way.

I think the real issue is that if you&#039;re using auto-blogging plugins, there is probably some other kind of footprint that&#039;s getting you into trouble. Personally I don&#039;t use any autoblogging at all - I don&#039;t think it has any benefit over the long term. I&#039;ve been doing this for 3 years and I&#039;ve already had a few sites that were doing amazing, and have since been deindexed, so while the short term money is great, it really sucks when a cash cow gets deindexed, so I&#039;ve really shifted focus to creating stable web properties that are as white-hat as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, and in regards to the plugins folder &#8211; I have never heard anything to indicate that it&#8217;s important to hide your plugins folder. I really can&#8217;t imagine a scenario where it would be a factor in any way.</p>
<p>I think the real issue is that if you&#8217;re using auto-blogging plugins, there is probably some other kind of footprint that&#8217;s getting you into trouble. Personally I don&#8217;t use any autoblogging at all &#8211; I don&#8217;t think it has any benefit over the long term. I&#8217;ve been doing this for 3 years and I&#8217;ve already had a few sites that were doing amazing, and have since been deindexed, so while the short term money is great, it really sucks when a cash cow gets deindexed, so I&#8217;ve really shifted focus to creating stable web properties that are as white-hat as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.wpcontempo.com/100-epn-site-challenge-mid-october-update/#comment-1511</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah 300 is definitely nothing to scoff at. The best part is I&#039;m basically on the absolute low end of what my earnings will be from these sites, so all I need to do is be patient and eventually they will reach their potential.

I&#039;m paying about $15 for expired domains, give or take, too. I don&#039;t think I will be doing these sites in big batches in the forseeable future, but I am going to try and crank out at least 10 new sites on expired domains each month. I&#039;ve been trying to find the best expired domains and going from there, rather than doing keyword research and finding expired domains to match. I&#039;ve only got 1 fully completed so far, but I have about 8 more in production that should all be done this week - so we&#039;ll see how it goes. 

I spent most of my free time since August building backlinks to my 100 sites, so it&#039;s nice to be working on some other projects now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah 300 is definitely nothing to scoff at. The best part is I&#8217;m basically on the absolute low end of what my earnings will be from these sites, so all I need to do is be patient and eventually they will reach their potential.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m paying about $15 for expired domains, give or take, too. I don&#8217;t think I will be doing these sites in big batches in the forseeable future, but I am going to try and crank out at least 10 new sites on expired domains each month. I&#8217;ve been trying to find the best expired domains and going from there, rather than doing keyword research and finding expired domains to match. I&#8217;ve only got 1 fully completed so far, but I have about 8 more in production that should all be done this week &#8211; so we&#8217;ll see how it goes. </p>
<p>I spent most of my free time since August building backlinks to my 100 sites, so it&#8217;s nice to be working on some other projects now.</p>
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